Comments on: The Strange World of Macs (Part 2) http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/ Technology, flights, and me. Tue, 20 Dec 2011 02:33:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Desk http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-247 Desk Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:46:54 +0000 http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/#comment-247 Macs scare me. Google reading entry now! Macs scare me. Google reading entry now!

]]> By: Ola http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-246 Ola Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:54:32 +0000 http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/#comment-246 For some reason, Google Reader refuses to see this entry... For some reason, Google Reader refuses to see this entry…

]]> By: epsalon http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-245 epsalon Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:50:23 +0000 http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/#comment-245 I did do it, but I had to disable spotlight since they use the same shortcut. I did do it, but I had to disable spotlight since they use the same shortcut.

]]> By: Emma http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-244 Emma Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:04:04 +0000 http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/#comment-244 If I can do it, you definitely shouldn't be having problems. Computers hate me. If I can do it, you definitely shouldn’t be having problems. Computers hate me.

]]> By: epsalon http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-243 epsalon Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:56:38 +0000 http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/#comment-243 Emma, that's exactly what I'm referring to. The keyboard shortcut to switch languages is disabled by default and could not be enabled from the language preference screen. You need to go to a special "shortcuts" menu linked there and cancel the spotlight shortcuts in order to have it work. Emma, that’s exactly what I’m referring to. The keyboard shortcut to switch languages is disabled by default and could not be enabled from the language preference screen. You need to go to a special “shortcuts” menu linked there and cancel the spotlight shortcuts in order to have it work.

]]> By: Shachar http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-242 Shachar Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:36:41 +0000 http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/#comment-242 I have to agree with Tal on this one - the people at apple try to educate their users through their interface design. Resetting password shouldn't be an action that the users tend to do, and therefore it is not easy to be done. It is still easier than resetting password in linux (which either require booting in single user mode, booting from live CD mounting and chrooting into the real / or editing the /etc/shadow file manually), and much easier than resetting the password in windows (boot into a *Linux* live CD, mount ntfs, use chntpw and hope for the best). Spotlight takes some time to build its index after a fresh install, but so does "locate" for example. Give it few hours of unused computer time, and it would work great. It's main features aren't launching applications, but finding your documents and files. Somewhat like beagle/tracker/google desktop in the other main OSes. Apple's install system is far more user friendly than either the one used by linux (RPM hell anyone?) or windows (proudly presenting DLL hell). Yes, it is kind of scary for a geek who is used to have to mess around with his computer in order for stuff to work, and who want to know about each and every file put in his computer, but it is much simpler for the novice user, and much easier to use. Small webcam integrated in laptops is very common - many of the modern laptops have one, and if integrated properly it is almost unnoticeable. The eject button on the keyboard is kind of confusing at first, and I don't like the dependency on software for CD ejection, but it does make the iMacs look prettier. Macs are much better integrated than normal desktop PCs, and have software which is extremely well integrated with them. That means that Mac will work better than a standard PC and will usually require less administration (not to mention Apple's tech support which is better than the standard level of support for PCs). It does mean that you are facing a world of pain if you are planning to use a hackingtosh (OS X installed on a normal PC hardware), and that you will have less "wiggling room" to tweak and modify your computer when it doesn't do exactly what you want. I personally don't use Mac because it is expensive and locks the user down more than the level Linux does (but less than what windows does to the users), and due to limited applications compatibility. My gf uses mac and she is very happy with it. Mac is for people who want their computer to "just work" and are willing to pay for it substantially more, windows is for people who likes viruses while being locked out of their own computer, and Linux is for people who want a total control on their computers and are willing to pay with some maintenance work from time to time, though Ubuntu is slowly getting to the place where Macs are, in a much harder turf. I have to agree with Tal on this one – the people at apple try to educate their users through their interface design. Resetting password shouldn’t be an action that the users tend to do, and therefore it is not easy to be done. It is still easier than resetting password in linux (which either require booting in single user mode, booting from live CD mounting and chrooting into the real / or editing the /etc/shadow file manually), and much easier than resetting the password in windows (boot into a *Linux* live CD, mount ntfs, use chntpw and hope for the best).
Spotlight takes some time to build its index after a fresh install, but so does “locate” for example. Give it few hours of unused computer time, and it would work great. It’s main features aren’t launching applications, but finding your documents and files. Somewhat like beagle/tracker/google desktop in the other main OSes.

Apple’s install system is far more user friendly than either the one used by linux (RPM hell anyone?) or windows (proudly presenting DLL hell). Yes, it is kind of scary for a geek who is used to have to mess around with his computer in order for stuff to work, and who want to know about each and every file put in his computer, but it is much simpler for the novice user, and much easier to use.

Small webcam integrated in laptops is very common – many of the modern laptops have one, and if integrated properly it is almost unnoticeable. The eject button on the keyboard is kind of confusing at first, and I don’t like the dependency on software for CD ejection, but it does make the iMacs look prettier.

Macs are much better integrated than normal desktop PCs, and have software which is extremely well integrated with them. That means that Mac will work better than a standard PC and will usually require less administration (not to mention Apple’s tech support which is better than the standard level of support for PCs). It does mean that you are facing a world of pain if you are planning to use a hackingtosh (OS X installed on a normal PC hardware), and that you will have less “wiggling room” to tweak and modify your computer when it doesn’t do exactly what you want.

I personally don’t use Mac because it is expensive and locks the user down more than the level Linux does (but less than what windows does to the users), and due to limited applications compatibility. My gf uses mac and she is very happy with it. Mac is for people who want their computer to “just work” and are willing to pay for it substantially more, windows is for people who likes viruses while being locked out of their own computer, and Linux is for people who want a total control on their computers and are willing to pay with some maintenance work from time to time, though Ubuntu is slowly getting to the place where Macs are, in a much harder turf.

]]> By: Emma http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241 Emma Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:02:20 +0000 http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/#comment-241 Your problem was that you were trying to install Hebrew support. In Mac OSX, it's native (look under language toolbar in System Preferences) where you can set your keyboard shortcuts, language preference order, and a whole bunch of other things. It even gives you a choice between a standard Hebrew keyboard and one that's been phonetically mapped onto the QWERTY keyboard. Your problem was that you were trying to install Hebrew support. In Mac OSX, it’s native (look under language toolbar in System Preferences) where you can set your keyboard shortcuts, language preference order, and a whole bunch of other things. It even gives you a choice between a standard Hebrew keyboard and one that’s been phonetically mapped onto the QWERTY keyboard.

]]> By: Tal Achituv http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-240 Tal Achituv Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:09:40 +0000 http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/#comment-240 Oh, come-on! Alon. Looks like you're looking for things to complain about. I have used many Linux desktops, All forms of Windows and MacOS and Mac OS is by-far not only the most intuitive and fast but also the most stable OS. Three years ago I was one of those guys who'd call Mac people "those stupid people who don't understand that you MUST HAVE MORE THAN ONE mouse button". and "Who would want a computer that is virtually un-customizable?"... Since then, I've fallen in love with my Mac, it runs amazingly well - and the hardware is magnificent, since everything above the level that I would get if I had a choice, and I don't have to worry about drivers, it just works - and works well. I'm sure that if you give it a chance, really give it a chance - out of wanting to learn (and not wanting to find things to complain about) you'll see that there's no going back. I'm sure that one day Linux will catch up, and I'm going to do my best to help with that, but in the meanwhile - Macs are my choice of platform. Oh, come-on! Alon.

Looks like you’re looking for things to complain about.

I have used many Linux desktops, All forms of Windows and MacOS and Mac OS is by-far not only the most intuitive and fast but also the most stable OS.

Three years ago I was one of those guys who’d call Mac people “those stupid people who don’t understand that you MUST HAVE MORE THAN ONE mouse button”. and “Who would want a computer that is virtually un-customizable?”…

Since then, I’ve fallen in love with my Mac, it runs amazingly well – and the hardware is magnificent, since everything above the level that I would get if I had a choice, and I don’t have to worry about drivers, it just works – and works well.

I’m sure that if you give it a chance, really give it a chance – out of wanting to learn (and not wanting to find things to complain about) you’ll see that there’s no going back.

I’m sure that one day Linux will catch up, and I’m going to do my best to help with that, but in the meanwhile – Macs are my choice of platform.

]]> By: boaz golstein http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-239 boaz golstein Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:21:04 +0000 http://blog.8ln.org/2009/07/the-strange-world-of-macs-part-2/#comment-239 the application thing is quite elegant IMHO. an application is a folder containing a certain set of files. to install the app, you drag it and the folder is copied. the application thing is quite elegant IMHO. an application is a folder containing a certain set of files. to install the app, you drag it and the folder is copied.

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